The Jewish People are carriers of a moral tradition, but the Jewish state exists in the real world where power matters. In episode #2 Donniel Hartman, Elana Stein Hain and Tal Becker explore how we balance our commitment to moral excellence with Israel’s obligation to survive and thrive in a world governed by realpolitik.

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For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast from the the Shalom Hartman Institute’s iEngage Project that revives the lost art of Jewish debate for the sake of illuminating a topic, not sowing division. The podcast draws its name from the concept of Machloket l’shem shemayim, “Disagreeing for the sake of heaven.”