For Heaven's Sake Podcast
For Heaven's Sake Podcast
Exploring the ideas and values behind differing positions on contemporary issues challenging to Israel and the Jewish world.


Launched in summer 2020, For Heaven’s Sake is a bi-weekly podcast from the the Shalom Hartman Institute’s iEngage Project that revives the lost art of Jewish debate for the sake of illuminating a topic, not sowing division. 

The podcast draws its name from the concept of Machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven.” In episodes 1-3 Donniel Hartman, Elana Stein Hain and Tal Becker analyze a contemporary issue and explore differing positions challenging to both Israel and the Jewish world. Beginning with episode 4, Yossi Klein Halevi joins the conversation. In the best of Jewish tradition, their discussions articulate the most morally serious sides of each argument – whether they agree or not!

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For more information about For Heaven's Sake, contact David Zvi Kalman, Fellow in Residence