The number of fatalities continues to rise. As Israel’s new reality of unfathomable horror begins to set in, many took comfort in the latest speech by US President Biden, in which he called the Hamas attack “pure evil”. From Jerusalem, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi explore what it means to confront evil. What happens when the behavior of others descends from wrongful to outright evil, and how do we cope with it?

This is day five of Israel at War.

A transcript of this episode is available here.