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As a Catholic, I appreciate the Menschkeit & Spiritualiy of Rabbi Hartman. As an American, I find it difficult to fathom that Israelis/Jews today still sense danger of any kind! The dangers for the Falesteeni are real.I leave you with that thought, Shalom.
sciaccadana, germany, 17/06/2012 15:35:00
Judaism comes first
We all stem from the same source. Tradition tells us that God made the first human as both Male and Female from clays of different hues and colors from the various compass points of the earth, so that one group of people could not say; "My people are better than your people." Religions are how we understand our different stories.
Rabbi Gershon Steinberg-Caudill, USA, 13/04/2012 17:00:00
bravo!
This wisdom is refreshing and convincing. I blogged, b`shem omro, about this article. Thanks. http://rabbipaul.blogspot.com/2012/04/jewish-peoplehood-precedes-jewish.html
Rabbi Paul Kipnes, USA, 13/04/2012 08:27:00
Dr. Hartman
Kindness is at the heart of Jewish tradition regardless of one`s religious zeal, or political agenda. Can we treat our neighbors with due respect and dignity in 2012 and beyond? Can we help Palestinians to live next door to us as they have lived for the past 2000 years? and finally, can our Jewish leaders become liberators as Cyrus the Great liberated our ancestors from the bondage in Babylon 2,590 years ago?
Reza Azarmi, USA, 11/04/2012 20:33:00
To David (Pavett?)
Speaking on the values of "slaughtering the first born" and how they resonate with today`s problem, my initial instinct is to respond to you with "an eye for an eye" or "do onto others what they do onto you." But I will not. Instead, I will argue that you take a biblical story, and do what is all too common in today`s society and politics: taking things out of context. To use your own words, "what is not said" (by you) is that while under their ruling, the Egyptians were methodically killing the Israelites by throwing the Jewish first-born children to the river. Getting out of Egypt became not just to a matter of achieving freedom - it was a matter of self-defense; a need for survival at any cost. Furthermore, another small detail you overlooked is the fact that there were 9 previous attempts, far less lethal and more humane, to convince Pharoe to let the Jewish people go. The fact that he didn`t get it sooner, the fact that he chose to reach a point where the Egyptian first-born children had to die so the Jewish people can live -- well, in today`s terms one would say "tough luck!" And that`s where I get to your final question: "How do these values resonate with today`s problems?" Israel face another soon-to-be imminent survival challenge: modern-day Pharoe who is out to destroy us - Iran. If those who rule Iran do not get all the cues that are lining up telling them to stop, and all the increasingly-severe national pressures and sanctions -- than we may get to the point that something drastic and dramatic - even seemingly insane and barbaric - may have to be done in order to insure the survival of our country. Chag Sameach and safe to all of us.
Zevi, USA, 11/04/2012 13:42:00
A pick and choose attitude
Rav Saadya Gaon already said “Ein Yisrael Umma Ella BeToroteha”. Israel is a nation by virtue of her keeping the mitzvot. The opinion that we shouldn’t keep certain mitzvot, either since they create antagonism among the non-observant, or for any other reason, undermines the very basis of Orthodox Judaism. It’s not an Orthodox doctrine. A pick and choose attitude is not an Orthodox view.
Avrum, , 10/04/2012 09:17:00
Kind
I don t need religion to be kind .I only need to be human and treat people the way I like to be treated , religious people live in lala land ..I don t trust them ,thy are stuck .thy cant move with the time ..
Minhal , NewZealand, 08/04/2012 10:50:00
Pesach Message
Brilliant! Just had our seder which once again is a combination of chardali, chiluni, dati leumi and Reformi...this piece saved our seder- thank you, Rich
Rich Kirschen, Israel, 08/04/2012 07:27:00
Pesach
Donniel Hartman writes "Pesach is the Independence Day of the Jewish people. It is when God’s promise to Abraham to turn his descendants into a great nation comes to fruition". Behind all the talk of a celebration of "our Jewish values and practices", "a God intoxication in which we strive to walk in the way of God", "our movement from slavery to freedom" and " the eternal idea of redemption" there is a failure to reflect on what is actually being celebrated. What is said is that Pesach is about the release of the Jews from slavery. What is not said, or is said with a humanity-denying insouciance is that this freedom was acquired with a slaughter of the innocents, the first born in every Egyptian household. What kind of freedom is based on a deliberate slaughter of innocent children? What kind of values are transmitted by celebrating such a slaughter? How do these values resonate with today`s problems?
David, Pavett, 06/04/2012 12:08:00
a moral interpretation of tradition
Like Moses we have to ask ourselves: Which part of Torah we are willing to relinquish for the sake of the Jewish people, which truth or personal commitment, while dear to us, is too dear, and causes hurt and alienation? When doing so it is not a religious compromise but rather a religious value, a fulfillment of the dictates of our tradition which celebrates Pesach first and makes it the foundation of Sinai and not the opposite. `Natural law` precedes Torah and is embedded in Torah. We need to respect our fellow Jews as we are enjoined to respect all people. Judaism, as you remind us, Donniel, should not force us to violate our innate ethical conscience.
Dick Kaufman, USA, 06/04/2012 03:50:00
 
 
   
 
   
 
 
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