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For a rational solution both sides should be rational so in an ideal rational world there is no place for conflicts. The arab "rational"is motivated for the negation of Israel and Jews in the area even since the creation of Israel . So there is no zero sum equation to resolve the problem.
Shmuel, L, 15/01/2012 18:58:00
Bilateralism and the red lines
It of course is not possible to disagree. Zero Sum situations first of all presuppose discrete conditions hardly occurring in the real world- and are simply instrumental fiction. Resorting to that simplification it nevertheless is important to acknowledge that eschewing one zero sum we may unintentionally engage in creating an other which constitutes an even more tragically inferior optimum. Tolerating/forgiving events like the murder of two drivers gone astray at Tul Karem during the 2000 intifadeh-- is a case in point. As the article itself points out every bilateral discourse must be embedded and consistent with a Pan Human conception of a priori equal rights to life, happiness achievement- when this common denominator is absent compromises serve only to legitimize the "tribal victory" of the Yetzer Ha Ra. Sylvia Sztern-SempreLovingM.G.
Sylvia Sztern-SempreLovingM.G., Sweden, 08/01/2012 20:44:00
banalities
there`s nothing in this is article that isn`t known or obvious to everyone. the only way to harness game theory is to tackle complexity (which is a system property). mr. becker try this one: israeli society is more complex than arab society. what does it mean in terms of feasibilities for either one?
michael, switzerland, 08/01/2012 16:33:00
Hard conflicts, hard choices.
It`s hard to know just where to stop, where to find that ideal place somewhere between victory and defeat. It`s hard for the obvious reason that no easy way exists to carry to the process. At least, not yet. It`s hard because people are scared to make any moves that they might later have cause to regret. It`s hard to know what the other person is thinking unless a common bond can carry their thoughts, until a framework for settled discussion and development is available to both sides. It`s hard because too many fears crowd out the natural instinct in Man to reach out to his fellowman when the occasion demands. It`s hard when the memories of past encounters demonstrate the failures of techniques that should have worked and the frail construction of so many bridges that were expected to last much longer than they did. It`s hard because not one of us has taken the time to make it easy. It`s hard because, maybe, that`s the way it should be. And it will remain that way unless and until we all decide to make it otherwise. http://yorketowers.blogspot.com
John Yorke, UK, 07/01/2012 20:55:00
the lessons to learn
boy, the souls incarnated in israel at this time seem to have needed a crash course in learning that beliefs create reality, and the huge destructiveness of ego. no better school for this on earth at the current time.
gregory lent, china, 07/01/2012 17:57:00
Zero Sum Games
Yes, I agree, but what are the opportunities without realistic negotiations?
Len, Netherlands/UK, 06/01/2012 16:25:00
Objectivity
Mr. Becker`s article is a call for a rational Israeli policy that may be a turning point that leads to a Palistinian-Israel Peace, and hopefully, a Bi-National State with both peoples sharing a Democratic Secular reality.
Jack Disraeli, USA, 06/01/2012 09:32:00
compromise
This article is correct in theory, but not in reality. The reality is that the Palestinians have proven over and over for over 60 years that they are not interested in compromise, but only in the destruction of the Jewish State. They announce this every day. One thing that should be obvious to everyone, even the author, is that you cannot compromise with suicide bombers, or with a society that glorifies suicide bombers and turns them into folk heroes. You cannot compromise with a society that "loves death" as the Palestinians tell us that they do every day. We would like to believe that everyone is rational and has the ability to compromise the "accomodate the legitimate aspirations of the other" as the author describes it. Unfortunately, that is just not the case with the Palestinians. They have proven over and over again that they would rather live in misery and live in peace, and they would rather blame the Jews for their dsyfunction than teach their children the value of compromise. This is the obvious truth. You cannot deal with suicide bombers and a culture that loves death. You cannot compromise with them. You cannot appease them. They are determined to die. Tragically all a rational society can is make sure they die at a time and place of your choosing rather than their choosing. Unfortunately, when it comes to the Palestinians, it is a zero sum game. It is hard for a democracy to accept that, but it is the truth. The Palestinians would rather die than live in peace with Israel. How many suicide bombers will it take before we have to admit to ourselves that THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT LIKE US. THEY ARE NOT NORMAL. YOU CANNOT DEAL WITH THEM LIKE NORMAL, RATIONAL PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT.
mike, USA, 06/01/2012 01:31:00
A reversal of fate - and then some.
An excellent article but there is no mention of the procedure to be used. `The challenge is to encourage a political culture that becomes defined less by the need to win battles than by the obligation to reconcile interests. And, ultimately, to see in our common humanity and collective identity values no less deserving of our commitment than our disparate causes and individual convictions. ` As an intellectual exercise, this analysis certainly covers a good many bases but, in practical terms, I just can`t see it being implemented, no matter how desirable such a thing might be. The reason? Israeli and Palestinian societies haven`t the philosophical depth and political stamina to allow for this type of consideration, not even in its most abstract form. I hasten to add that this is true of societies in general and those in the Middle East, almost by default, are governed by very much the same parameters. Could it ever be possible to translate so esoteric a concept into reality; for ALL parties to endorse a scenario where one side`s primary interests are made manifest, even to the marked detriment of the other? And vice-versa? http://yorketowers.blogspot.com How long would this conflict be able to continue, at least in its customary form, if so complete a role-reversal were to be demanded from each of the main players? You could probably count the days and not miss by more than a week.
John Yorke, UK, 05/01/2012 23:37:00